AN AIDS DRUG ASSISTANCE
PROTOCOL FUND INTERVIEW

What's It All About, Alfie?
Bill Arnold offers his perspectives on the
$20 million
ADAP emergency funding announcement.


Interview Date: June 27, 2004
Subject: William  E. Arnold
Interviewer:  Gordon Nary

 


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Many in the US AIDS community were taken by surprise by the June 23 White House
Announcement
 that $20 million in HIV drugs will be distributed to states with ADAP
waiting lists.
Apparently the advocacy efforts by
The ADAP Working Group, Title II
Community AIDS Network, Congressional Black Caucus, American Academy of HIV
Medicine, HIV Medicine Association, Save ADAP,
and others have had some impact
on the White House staff. Some in the AIDS community are now hopeful that state
waiting lists may soon be eliminated.  How many people on state ADAP waiting lists
will the $20 million drug allocation cover?

 
Arnold

 
$20 million would cover a year's supply of HAART for 1,650 to 2,000 people with HIV
disease - depending on the specific drug regimens involved

 
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How many people are currently on state ADAP waiting lists?
 
Arnold



 
According to the latest NASTAD [National Association of State and Territorial AIDS
Directors] The ADAP Watch, there were 1629 people on state ADAP waiting lists as
of June 7, 2004. This number included the addition of 366 people to state waiting lists
during the previous two months.
 
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How many people on average apply to ADAP each month?
 
Arnold




 
Between 450 to 650 people apply to state ADAPs every month for the drugs that they need
to survive. Those states that have the resources will enroll the majority of their ADAP
applicants. Those states without adequate resource will have to consider eligibility
restrictions, reductions in their drug formularies and/or placement of applicants on waiting
lists.
 
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Did the White House announcement signal a commitment by this Administration to
eliminate the need for state waiting lists and other restrictions on access to HIV drugs?
 
Arnold















 
The Administration is committed to eliminating ADAP waiting lists and providing everyone
in America who needs quality HIV care access to such care. Everyone who has formally or
informally interacted with the Administration knows this. The debates and disagreements
are not on what should be done, but rather how to do it,
and whether additional federal funds
should be committed to that effort. In short, disagreements are over money, the federal budget
and spending clashes
. There are two fundamental questions around which the debates revolve:
  • Should priority go to drugs and/or medical care?
  • Can we meet these goals without spending more money? 

There is no consensus on the answer to the prioritization question. There are countless
discussions around cost-effectiveness in general.  There are also heated debates on
the most cost-effective use of federal, state, and local funding stream contributions to
reduce the increasing financial strain on emergency room, hospital intensive care, and
home healthcare for people with AIDS who have not had access to appropriate drugs
and care to prevent their HIV disease progression.
 

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As one who reads political tea leaves more accurately than anyone since Jean Dixon, 
do you feel that the White House announcement portends any action on the
reauthorization of the Ryan White CARE Act? 
 
Arnold








 
Aside from the very welcome official signal that the US AIDS epidemic needs a reauthorized
Ryan White CARE Act, most assume the Administration's signals were that a priority needs

to be given to both medical care and drugs There are also clear signals for more flexibility
in use of all CARE Act funding and that specific results (and thus accountability for outcomes
of all funded programs) will be sought. Again, there are no surprises here to those working on
these issues in Washington. It is no secret that state health departments also want more
flexibility. And it is no secret that Congress may not have the highest confidence in either HHS
or state government ideas of what the term flexibility might mean, or how well such flexibility
would be exercised if they would allow it.
 
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How does this White House initiative impact the $217 million requested from Congress for
ADAP support for 2005?
 
Arnold































 
It does not impact our request at all. If one assumes that the $20 million will clear the
current waiting lists and we do not get the necessary $217 million in ADAP funding, the
waiting lists will start up again shortly after the 4th of July. The $20 million in HIV drugs is
not a declaration of independence from state waiting lists. The Administration has helped
those who are currently on waiting lists. But there has been no help for those thousands
of medically indigent men and women who will be diagnosed with HIV each year who may
become new waiting list statistics.

While the President's chosen approach is laudable for its sense of emergency and
demand for fast action, our government has not been successful in solving the domestic
ADAP crisis by allocating adequate ADAP funds or the international AIDS crisis by
facilitating delivery of the promised HIV drugs to the epicenters of the pandemic. This has
been an embarrassment to many.
 
Our government's approach to HIV drug access can be fraught with problems for people
with HIV disease, ADAP programs, and state and federal administrative staff. Our current
policies are embedded with political and ethical time bombs. The fiscal year 2005 ADAP
financial need was for $217 million in budget appropriations with $117 million made available
now via an ADAP Emergency Supplemental Appropriation.  However, the Administration has
attempted to respond to the waiting list challenge with a $20 million stop-gap plan.  The $20
million will probably solve about 10% of the known ADAP problems - but it will not solve the
central problem of drug access for the several thousands of medically indigent diagnosed
with HIV every year that will turn to an ADAP for a lifeline.

With these problems still unresolved, are we grateful for solving 10% of the problem? Yes,
we are very grateful. Raising the issue in a Presidential speech was a definite act of
political leadership and clearly demonstrates that something must be done quickly. This is
certainly real political leadership on the part of President Bush and Secretary Thompson on
an issue of great importance to Hispanic, African-American, and Gay and Lesbian
communities. Even if the solution proposed is just a “start” to solving the problem we should
be grateful for the Presidents’ actions. Is it our responsibility to continue the work and even
step-up our efforts to solve the remaining 90% of the ADAP crisis?  Of course it is.
.

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How equitable is this stop-gap initiative on states who have provided the necessary financial
support for their ADAP programs to avoid major formulary cuts and waiting lists? Will this
announcement make it more difficult for future state ADAP appropriations?
 
Arnold














































 
No one thoroughly evaluated the questions of equity, sufficiency, or unintended
consequences on the $20 million ADAP stop-gap plan. Possibly the White House may not
have given the responsible parties at HHS sufficient time to do so. It is an election year. So
when marching orders come from the White House, there may not  be adequate time to
marshal the most effective recommendations from the ground troops who battle the
inequities of drug access for the medically indigent with HIV disease.

States that have worked long and hard to secure funds to insure that their ADAP
programs did not have to reduce their drug formularies,  restrict their eligibility
requirements, or implement waiting lists are unhappy about the equity of the White
House initiative. For example, there are several states faced with having to create
waiting lists in the next few weeks and months, and those states are audibly angry.

 
Sometimes in the rush to implement a new policy that may have significant benefits
for some, we may fail to thoroughly evaluate the consequences of the policy on others.
This is the fundamental challenge of distributive or social justice. Many states have
been understandably disturbed over the equity of this policy and are asking:

  • "Why did people with HIV disease in state "x" get special attention and our
    people were ignored?" 
  • "We run a far better and more comprehensive ADAP program than than does
    state "x" and our people are getting a raw deal."
  • "They are going to send drugs to people in a state that doesn't even have
    protease inhibitors on the ADAP formulary. Our formulary covers antiretrovirals
    and OI [opportunistic infection] drugs How fair is that?" 
  • "We have to open an ADAP waiting list in eight days. Why won't the
    Administration help us?"

Because there are always life and death implications on drug access policies, one
should expect hard questions on any policy perceived to be inequitable. Many of
these questions come from those  who work with ADAP applicants. Their hearts
often break when they are unable to help those who look to them for access to HIV
drugs. Some secretly dream of performing "loaves-and-fishes"-type miracles and
providing unlimited drugs for all who need them. But dreams are only dreams. The
reality is that they must often settle for less perfect and sometimes painful resolutions.

This welcome gesture from President Bush should not make future appropriations any
more difficult. The needs all remain as they have been for the last 3 to 4 years. Each
month 450 to 650 people with HIV look to ADAPs for access to HIV treatment. We will
either have the political will to ensure that these patients get appropriate treatment for
their disease or we won’t and everything remains as it was. We sometimes forget that
HIV attacks both the person and the society. Unless people with HIV disease get access
to effective drugs, they suffer and die.  And our society also suffers and dies. We suffer from
the financial burden of end-stage HIV care and slowly die from the loss of our moral sense of
right and wrong as we refuse to  to help the most vulnerable among us who depend on us for
their survival.

 

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Should access to HIV drugs by the medically indigent in our country be an entitlement?
 
Arnold

















 
Yes for both moral and fiscal reasons.  The moral argument should be obvious.
Government has an obligation to protect its most vulnerable citizens from
unnecessary suffering and death. Some policymakers have failed to appreciate the
fiscal argument. It should be very clear from multiple and reliable data sources that
keeping HIV-positive people healthy, working, paying taxes and raising their families is much
less costly than allowing avoidable AIDS deaths accompanied by the incredible
expenses of end-stage hospitalizations and accompanying societal costs of orphans,
broken families, and the other consequences of unnecessary suffering and death.
 
There are opportunities to do some of this work in the reauthorization of the Ryan
White Care Act. There are models in the Early Treatment for HIV Act (ETHA). The
Institute of Medicine has advanced their own entitlement recommendations. There are
state level models involving a high-risk insurance pool mechanism that offer tremendous
cost savings and have great appeal.
 
There are a number of viable approaches. It remains to be seen if all stakeholders will be
able to come to consensus on a single approach that will do a good job for HIV+
patients and for the US health care delivery systems, as a whole.

 
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Thank you for taking time on your day off for this interview. Your insights into these issues
and challenges are a valuable resource for the US HIV care advocacy community and
others who believe that all healthcare for the medically indigent should be a human right.
 

William E. Arnold is the Vice Chairman and CEO of the Title II Community AIDS National Network, Inc.,
Director of the ADAP Working Group, and Secretary and Treasurer of AIDSETI (AIDS Empowerment and
Treatment International).

Gordon Nary is the executive director of the AIDS Drug Assistance Protocol Fund and Medical Advocates for 
Social Justice.

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